nice hot day,schools finished for the summer and the water in the park was lovely
no dog pooh to be seen,not in the playground anyway!
so a nice positive post to start the summer hols
i wish EVERYONE a great summer!
leaf
wells park;just to add balance!
wells park;just to add balance!
i have just spent a wonderful afternoon in my favourite park!
nice hot day,schools finished for the summer and the water in the park was lovely
no dog pooh to be seen,not in the playground anyway!
so a nice positive post to start the summer hols
i wish EVERYONE a great summer!
leaf
nice hot day,schools finished for the summer and the water in the park was lovely
no dog pooh to be seen,not in the playground anyway!
so a nice positive post to start the summer hols
i wish EVERYONE a great summer!
leaf
Some might say.... so should women.
Muzzles are appropriate only for vicious dogs or dogs which are so immensely strong their owners have little or no chance of controlling them when enraged.
Just for the record.... Can anyone produce statistics on the number of dog bites? It must be an easy statistic to obtain since the dog pays with his/her life.
Muzzles are appropriate only for vicious dogs or dogs which are so immensely strong their owners have little or no chance of controlling them when enraged.
Just for the record.... Can anyone produce statistics on the number of dog bites? It must be an easy statistic to obtain since the dog pays with his/her life.
knighton
this was extracted from the wolf trust website;
National dog bite figures are not published in Britain. But Cusdin et al (2000) calculate 118 people per 100,000 people might need hospital attention annually for dog bites within the catchment area of a Yorkshire hospital they scrutinised. Extrapolating to the whole of Britain this would equal tens of thousands of dog bite casualties every year.
as it says no statistics are collated,but with the briefest of searches i came across lots of sites with details of peoples experiences of dog attacks,these however are only individual accounts so cant be taken as word.
in answer to your comment re dogs being destroyed if they attack,this isnt actually the case,it is v. hard to bring forth such action and if the dog attacks on its owners own property it doesnt even warrant the police coming out!
obviously this doesnt relate to the whole park issue but nontheless.
this was extracted from the wolf trust website;
National dog bite figures are not published in Britain. But Cusdin et al (2000) calculate 118 people per 100,000 people might need hospital attention annually for dog bites within the catchment area of a Yorkshire hospital they scrutinised. Extrapolating to the whole of Britain this would equal tens of thousands of dog bite casualties every year.
as it says no statistics are collated,but with the briefest of searches i came across lots of sites with details of peoples experiences of dog attacks,these however are only individual accounts so cant be taken as word.
in answer to your comment re dogs being destroyed if they attack,this isnt actually the case,it is v. hard to bring forth such action and if the dog attacks on its owners own property it doesnt even warrant the police coming out!
obviously this doesnt relate to the whole park issue but nontheless.
Dogs and their owners
The most worrying thing I ever encountered was a person who wouldn't let me stroke their dog because they were trying to train it to hate people and be aggressive (it wasn't). There are also people out there who pathetically think they need the 'protection' of an aggressive looking dog, (usually these just look scary but are harmess) luckily I haven't noticed many such people in Sydenham I'm glad to say.
As long as there are people like this, as well as others who just neglect their dogs, unfortuntely there will be a few problem dogs. There will always be a few idiots but its unfair to punish everyone else (and their dogs) because of an idiot minority. Most people are responsible and only let their dogs off the lead because they know the dog is harmless. After all i'm sure they don't want it to chew the face off a small child either.
I used to be terrified of dogs when I was a child but soon realised that if you run away from a dog making screaming noises it will chase you because it thinks its a game, so I changed my behaviour and dogs stopped chasing me. Since I had that realisation I havn't been afraid of dogs.
These days if I see a dog in a park when I'm out running I always make sure to carry on in whatever direction I am intending to go regardless of whether theres a pitbull in my path or not. So far I've never been bitten in my life. The biggest hazzard I've found is actually avoiding stepping on small dogs that are in my way!
As for the dog poo, hopefully the greater awareness and the more taboo it becomes to let your dog poo without picking it up, the less it will happen. I agree it is a horrible thing and usually it is one or two repeat offenders causing the problem. I used to live in a road where one person who actually lived on the same road used to let their dog poo all over the pavement up and down their own street whilst out being walked on a lead. Amazing!
As long as there are people like this, as well as others who just neglect their dogs, unfortuntely there will be a few problem dogs. There will always be a few idiots but its unfair to punish everyone else (and their dogs) because of an idiot minority. Most people are responsible and only let their dogs off the lead because they know the dog is harmless. After all i'm sure they don't want it to chew the face off a small child either.
I used to be terrified of dogs when I was a child but soon realised that if you run away from a dog making screaming noises it will chase you because it thinks its a game, so I changed my behaviour and dogs stopped chasing me. Since I had that realisation I havn't been afraid of dogs.
These days if I see a dog in a park when I'm out running I always make sure to carry on in whatever direction I am intending to go regardless of whether theres a pitbull in my path or not. So far I've never been bitten in my life. The biggest hazzard I've found is actually avoiding stepping on small dogs that are in my way!
As for the dog poo, hopefully the greater awareness and the more taboo it becomes to let your dog poo without picking it up, the less it will happen. I agree it is a horrible thing and usually it is one or two repeat offenders causing the problem. I used to live in a road where one person who actually lived on the same road used to let their dog poo all over the pavement up and down their own street whilst out being walked on a lead. Amazing!
Figures concerning bites are guesswork and wildly inaccurate I suggest.
How many people do you know who have experienced a dog-bite?
One other source of guesswork suggests about 1% of the American population have suffered a dog bite. It does not suggest how and in what circumstances. Then again America is a different place to the UK and I suspect dog training is less virorous there.
I believe the burglar population exceeds 1% of the population so perhaps there is a clue there.
Meanwhile I can declare having been bitten by a dog. It was a police dog and I was a teenager. I was walking home one night and two dim coppers released the dog... which made for me and bit my arm.
This bite appears in the statistics, such as they are. The fault was not the dog's. It was doing what it was trained to do. The handlers were neglegent.
When a dog bites it hits the headlines. It does so because dog bites are rare.... so rare it would be uneconomic to compile statistics.
How many people do you know who have experienced a dog-bite?
One other source of guesswork suggests about 1% of the American population have suffered a dog bite. It does not suggest how and in what circumstances. Then again America is a different place to the UK and I suspect dog training is less virorous there.
I believe the burglar population exceeds 1% of the population so perhaps there is a clue there.
Meanwhile I can declare having been bitten by a dog. It was a police dog and I was a teenager. I was walking home one night and two dim coppers released the dog... which made for me and bit my arm.
This bite appears in the statistics, such as they are. The fault was not the dog's. It was doing what it was trained to do. The handlers were neglegent.
When a dog bites it hits the headlines. It does so because dog bites are rare.... so rare it would be uneconomic to compile statistics.
Figures concerning bites are guesswork and wildly inaccurate I suggest.
How many people do you know who have experienced a dog-bite?
One other source of guesswork suggests about 1% of the American population have suffered a dog bite. It does not suggest how and in what circumstances. Then again America is a different place to the UK and I suspect dog training is less virorous there.
I believe the burglar population exceeds 1% of the population so perhaps there is a clue there.
Meanwhile I can declare having been bitten by a dog. It was a police dog and I was a teenager. I was walking home one night and two dim coppers released the dog... which made for me and bit my arm.
This bite appears in the statistics, such as they are. The fault was not the dog's. It was doing what it was trained to do. The handlers were negligent.
When a dog bites it hits the headlines. It does so because dog bites are rare.... so rare it would be uneconomic to compile statistics.
How many people do you know who have experienced a dog-bite?
One other source of guesswork suggests about 1% of the American population have suffered a dog bite. It does not suggest how and in what circumstances. Then again America is a different place to the UK and I suspect dog training is less virorous there.
I believe the burglar population exceeds 1% of the population so perhaps there is a clue there.
Meanwhile I can declare having been bitten by a dog. It was a police dog and I was a teenager. I was walking home one night and two dim coppers released the dog... which made for me and bit my arm.
This bite appears in the statistics, such as they are. The fault was not the dog's. It was doing what it was trained to do. The handlers were negligent.
When a dog bites it hits the headlines. It does so because dog bites are rare.... so rare it would be uneconomic to compile statistics.
i have been bitten by a dog as a child,it wasnt on a lead,there wasnt an owner to be seen and i didnt do anything to provoke it,it just ran up to me and my friend and bit me,my friend was bitten too.
i know quite alot of people who have been bitten by dogs some worse than others,in all cases they were in a public place and the dogs were unrestrained.
knighton you said;
Just for the record.... Can anyone produce statistics on the number of dog bites? It must be an easy statistic to obtain since the dog pays with his/her life
then you said;
Figures concerning bites are guesswork and wildly inaccurate I suggest.
and
When a dog bites it hits the headlines. It does so because dog bites are rare.... so rare it would be uneconomic to compile statistics
so is it easy to find the statistics or not?
maybe not as despite what you said before dogs are rarely destoyed for biting people,even though in my experience lots do bite.
i know quite alot of people who have been bitten by dogs some worse than others,in all cases they were in a public place and the dogs were unrestrained.
knighton you said;
Just for the record.... Can anyone produce statistics on the number of dog bites? It must be an easy statistic to obtain since the dog pays with his/her life
then you said;
Figures concerning bites are guesswork and wildly inaccurate I suggest.
and
When a dog bites it hits the headlines. It does so because dog bites are rare.... so rare it would be uneconomic to compile statistics
so is it easy to find the statistics or not?
maybe not as despite what you said before dogs are rarely destoyed for biting people,even though in my experience lots do bite.
There are no statistics. Get used to it.
I have kept 6 dogs and 2 cats during my life.
Not one of my dogs ever bit anyone. One of the cats most certainly did.... but it did not bite me.
I have known countless people who keep dogs. I have never heard of any of them biting.... although clearly, occasionally, I am sure there is the odd incident.
My experience of dogs is that they are an intelligent species. Frankly most dogs seem to have a better intellect than many a human. Like humans their behaviour is determined largely by the nature of their upbringing. It seems to me that people who care for dogs seem to put more effort into that than many of those who rear children.
If a dog of mine bit a burglar I think I might be proud of the dog. In practice my dogs have always been good watch dogs but they made a noise to alert the household and then relied on members of the household to protect them.
Dogs are intelligent.
I have kept 6 dogs and 2 cats during my life.
Not one of my dogs ever bit anyone. One of the cats most certainly did.... but it did not bite me.
I have known countless people who keep dogs. I have never heard of any of them biting.... although clearly, occasionally, I am sure there is the odd incident.
My experience of dogs is that they are an intelligent species. Frankly most dogs seem to have a better intellect than many a human. Like humans their behaviour is determined largely by the nature of their upbringing. It seems to me that people who care for dogs seem to put more effort into that than many of those who rear children.
If a dog of mine bit a burglar I think I might be proud of the dog. In practice my dogs have always been good watch dogs but they made a noise to alert the household and then relied on members of the household to protect them.
Dogs are intelligent.
knighton
you said;
There are no statistics. Get used to it.
i know !
i told you that after you said;
Just for the record.... Can anyone produce statistics on the number of dog bites? It must be an easy statistic to obtain since the dog pays with his/her life.
you said it must be an easy statistic to obtain!!??
but now you're telling me no statistics.get used to it!!
you contradict yourself knighton!
back to the original post on this thread,
i wish EVERYONE a great summer,especially you knighton!
you said;
There are no statistics. Get used to it.
i know !
i told you that after you said;
Just for the record.... Can anyone produce statistics on the number of dog bites? It must be an easy statistic to obtain since the dog pays with his/her life.
you said it must be an easy statistic to obtain!!??
but now you're telling me no statistics.get used to it!!
you contradict yourself knighton!
back to the original post on this thread,
i wish EVERYONE a great summer,especially you knighton!