Armed Criminality in Sydenham - Again

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Armed Criminality in Sydenham - Again

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Tragically this little patch of Sydenham is becoming a Shooter's Corner.

How many times have we recently had reports of armed activity - and fatalities - in Sydenham.

https://twitter.com/SthLondonPress/stat ... uGjmvn8nlg

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sydenham ... tines-day/
The Sydenham branch of Lloyds Bank was due to be closed indefinitely a few days after the incident happened.

According to witnesses who were in the vicinity, two men brandishing a gun walked into the bank and threatened the staff to hand over money.

Police arrived after the two assailants had fled and placed a cordon around the bank. It is not known how much money was stolen.
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It seems that branch is permanently closed now. So the Nat West is the only bank in Sydenham now.
There has been a debate about financial exclusion recently, shutting down all the bank branches seems to going that way.
Wonder what the building will become? Good location opposite the station.
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simon wrote: 2 Mar 2022 00:47 It seems that branch is permanently closed now. So the Nat West is the only bank in Sydenham now.
There has been a debate about financial exclusion recently, shutting down all the bank branches seems to going that way.
Wonder what the building will become? Good location opposite the station.
Banks usually end up being "trendy wine bars" :D

Free banking can also be done at the Post Office so Lloyds customers can deposit and withdraw there.
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Parker1970 wrote: 2 Mar 2022 10:24
simon wrote: 2 Mar 2022 00:47 It seems that branch is permanently closed now. So the Nat West is the only bank in Sydenham now.
There has been a debate about financial exclusion recently, shutting down all the bank branches seems to going that way.
Wonder what the building will become? Good location opposite the station.
Banks usually end up being "trendy wine bars" :D

Free banking can also be done at the Post Office so Lloyds customers can deposit and withdraw there.
Free as in 'Free at the point of service' - there's a cost to all this that has to be paid for somewhere and by someone (normally the customer)
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Sydenham wrote: 3 Mar 2022 11:06
Parker1970 wrote: 2 Mar 2022 10:24
simon wrote: 2 Mar 2022 00:47 It seems that branch is permanently closed now. So the Nat West is the only bank in Sydenham now.
There has been a debate about financial exclusion recently, shutting down all the bank branches seems to going that way.
Wonder what the building will become? Good location opposite the station.
Banks usually end up being "trendy wine bars" :D

Free banking can also be done at the Post Office so Lloyds customers can deposit and withdraw there.
Free as in 'Free at the point of service' - there's a cost to all this that has to be paid for somewhere and by someone (normally the customer)
Well, yes, because there is a cost incurred by the provider in providing that service to the customer, who is the beneficiary of that service. You wouldn't expect a greengrocer to pick up the cost of providing potatoes to their customers, would you?

As footfall in bank branches falls, it is more cost-effective for the banks to work together with the Post Office and have a single outlet on a high street providing that cash-in, cash-out service for the diminishing minority that continue to transact in that way - so reducing the cost that has to be paid by the customer.
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Parkrunner wrote: 6 Mar 2022 12:57 Well, yes, because there is a cost incurred by the provider in providing that service to the customer, who is the beneficiary of that service. You wouldn't expect a greengrocer to pick up the cost of providing potatoes to their customers, would you?
No argument that there is a cost - but what we have witnessed over the years is a slashing of costs by banks without adding to the services we see delivered to customers.

Once every branch would conduct transactions manually with a very personalised service in line with customer needs and demands. Computerisation has permitted banks to reduce costs (they describe it as efficiencies) whilst reducing the quality of customer care and service delivery to virtually zero.

The principle of banks holding our money, using it in turn to lend our money to others and make a substantial profit margin and giving customers a share in the form of interest on monies lodged has been abandoned by the banks.

We have not protested. You will not find a bank to offer much above 0.5% interest whilst charging borrowers between 25-45% plus multiple layers of fees and charges - and they in turn tell us they do us a a favour by handling our money.

Perhaps we have given too much ground to banks in the last 14 years on those points and the public in the form of bank customers should press for a restoration of balance. Banks could not operate if they did not have our money.
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JGD wrote: 7 Mar 2022 09:24
Parkrunner wrote: 6 Mar 2022 12:57 Well, yes, because there is a cost incurred by the provider in providing that service to the customer, who is the beneficiary of that service. You wouldn't expect a greengrocer to pick up the cost of providing potatoes to their customers, would you?
No argument that there is a cost - but what we have witnessed over the years is a slashing of costs by banks without adding to the services we see delivered to customers.

Once every branch would conduct transactions manually with a very personalised service in line with customer needs and demands. Computerisation has permitted banks to reduce costs (they describe it as efficiencies) whilst reducing the quality of customer care and service delivery to virtually zero.

The principle of banks holding our money, using it in turn to lend our money to others and make a substantial profit margin and giving customers a share in the form of interest on monies lodged has been abandoned by the banks.

We have not protested. You will not find a bank to offer much above 0.5% interest whilst charging borrowers between 25-45% plus multiple layers of fees and charges - and they in turn tell us they do us a a favour by handling our money.

Perhaps we have given too much ground to banks in the last 14 years on those points and the public in the form of bank customers should press for a restoration of balance. Banks could not operate if they did not have our money.
The banks make even more profit than you suggest. We have a fractional reserve system of banking which means they can lend the same money many times over. The limits on lending are governed by rules concerning the reserves that must be held. Those reserves are FAR TOO LOW and that means inflation.
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An armed robbery - this time in Dartford by a Sydenham resident who has been sentenced to five years and four months in prison.
An armed robber from Sydenham has been jailed after threatening to kill a bank worker at Lloyds Bank in Dartford.

Roy Sinclair, of Otterden Street in Sydenham, handed himself to the police after stealing discontinued £20 notes from the bank in February 2022.

The 43-year-old entered the bank at around 3pm on February 4 and was seen by employees walking around with no apparent purpose.

Sinclair then threatened a cashier by holding a knife close to their body, while demanding money and said: “no alarms, or I’ll kill you.”

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The NewsShopper report here:

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/2009 ... er-jailed/
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