a sunday walk in crystal palace park
a sunday walk in crystal palace park
i thought it time this had it's own thread. Todays walk was excellent and many thanks to everyone and especially Falkor. I'll upload some more of my photos later, but thought i'd get the first few up and others can contribute if they wish.
By way of explanation, i thought this was the statue of Joseph Paxton that we were meeting at. WRONG
I have no idea who this bloke is
Then we have the bust of Jospeh Paxton , where everyone else was waiting for me
then onto the go kart race track by the NSC.
and a post (partly submerged) which had something to do with marking a border with Penge
[img]
I'm sorry, but i am just completely mesmerised by the engineering that went into the Crystal Palace. The Victorians were brilliant.
A 375 foot groundwater well of 8 foot diameter was used to supplement the water feature in the park.
By way of explanation, i thought this was the statue of Joseph Paxton that we were meeting at. WRONG
I have no idea who this bloke is
Then we have the bust of Jospeh Paxton , where everyone else was waiting for me
then onto the go kart race track by the NSC.
and a post (partly submerged) which had something to do with marking a border with Penge
[img]
I'm sorry, but i am just completely mesmerised by the engineering that went into the Crystal Palace. The Victorians were brilliant.
A 375 foot groundwater well of 8 foot diameter was used to supplement the water feature in the park.
Last edited by ALIB on 15 Nov 2009 18:02, edited 1 time in total.
My feet!
Many thanks to all and especially Falkor for a fascinating walk. It ended up being 5 hours and felt like 2.
I'll post some more images later.
I learnt a lot of things I never knew about. I didn't know it was the first prefabricated building in the world, the fountains and gardens cost more than the palace itself, that there were 13 fountains in total and were the biggest in the world. We found a cast iron column from the palace sticking out of the ground still exists from the original building, we saw some people removing weeds from the North water tower and there was some original pieces of the cast iron structure there (which were bigger than I expected), how the sphinxs were made (I'll post an image of the inside of one later), the original wall in the caravan park, the fact that there were more steps added to the main entrance to the palace to cope with visitor numbers.
There are lots of hidden parts of the park which relate to the palace, which without a guide you pass by without a thought. Once again I marvel at the victorians and am amazed at how we have managed to almost obliterate the memory of these incredible feats of engineering and design under modern blandness.
Many thanks to all and especially Falkor for a fascinating walk. It ended up being 5 hours and felt like 2.
I'll post some more images later.
I learnt a lot of things I never knew about. I didn't know it was the first prefabricated building in the world, the fountains and gardens cost more than the palace itself, that there were 13 fountains in total and were the biggest in the world. We found a cast iron column from the palace sticking out of the ground still exists from the original building, we saw some people removing weeds from the North water tower and there was some original pieces of the cast iron structure there (which were bigger than I expected), how the sphinxs were made (I'll post an image of the inside of one later), the original wall in the caravan park, the fact that there were more steps added to the main entrance to the palace to cope with visitor numbers.
There are lots of hidden parts of the park which relate to the palace, which without a guide you pass by without a thought. Once again I marvel at the victorians and am amazed at how we have managed to almost obliterate the memory of these incredible feats of engineering and design under modern blandness.
well i've fixed our electrics, but the tumble dryer is dead.
I felt a tad jealous leaving you at , perhaps, the most interesting section of the walk.
the first picture is just to add a bit of colour
the concert venue with lake
Paxton Plaque
Part of this wall is from the original Palace
and this is definitely an original wall
The base of one of the water towers
2 pictures of part of the aquarium/monkey house
and that's my lot
I felt a tad jealous leaving you at , perhaps, the most interesting section of the walk.
the first picture is just to add a bit of colour
the concert venue with lake
Paxton Plaque
Part of this wall is from the original Palace
and this is definitely an original wall
The base of one of the water towers
2 pictures of part of the aquarium/monkey house
and that's my lot
with so much steel, glass brick and water, it's been buggin me why the Palace caught on fire
i've been trying to google it, but all the answers are a bit vague.
Apparently the fire started in one of the workers toilets and spread very rapidly and with such an intensity that the steel structure weakened and collapsed.
But which materials were flammable? All i've seen in the photographs are water features, plants, glass , concrete and steel. It all smacks a bit of an insurance swindle , having seen that the park had huge running costs which were barely covered during the depression years of the 30's.
And then we have 9/11 in New York. Another white elephant seemingly destroyed in a freak accident. The owners of the WTC had stipulated that terrorism be included on the building insurance, which is highly unusual.
I'm not convinced that the Palace fire was a genuine accident at all.
i've been trying to google it, but all the answers are a bit vague.
Apparently the fire started in one of the workers toilets and spread very rapidly and with such an intensity that the steel structure weakened and collapsed.
But which materials were flammable? All i've seen in the photographs are water features, plants, glass , concrete and steel. It all smacks a bit of an insurance swindle , having seen that the park had huge running costs which were barely covered during the depression years of the 30's.
And then we have 9/11 in New York. Another white elephant seemingly destroyed in a freak accident. The owners of the WTC had stipulated that terrorism be included on the building insurance, which is highly unusual.
I'm not convinced that the Palace fire was a genuine accident at all.
My understanding AliB is that the basement was open at both ends and of course the floor was wooden. Instead of popping the boards once worn they instead coated them in bitumen to prolong them. As boards would warp/crack and move dust and other rubbish would fall underneath the floors. I can only offer that it was the akin to the Kings Cross disaster in speed, ferocity and reason.
Fire + bitumen + 'fuel' + oxygen = complete destruction.
I would agree with you regarding the swindle angle if it weren't for the CP not being insured. As I understand it when the north transcept and knave burnt down the aquarium came into being precisely because they didn't have the monies to rebuild what was destroyed by fire...
Is this right? Anyone?[/i]
Fire + bitumen + 'fuel' + oxygen = complete destruction.
I would agree with you regarding the swindle angle if it weren't for the CP not being insured. As I understand it when the north transcept and knave burnt down the aquarium came into being precisely because they didn't have the monies to rebuild what was destroyed by fire...
Is this right? Anyone?[/i]
luckily you didn't take the photo of me standing on that tower base.
Yes it was the dry wooden floors with years or rubbish underneath that made perfect kindling that helped burn down the palace, also the wind direction helped.
In the 1866 fire the wind was blowing the other way which helped save most of the building.
There was yet another fire in 1937ish after the palace had burnt down near the remnants of the north side of the palace.
The South Wing that remained until the early 50s was also burnt down by vandals I believe.
The statue is of no one particular to my knowledge and meant to represent "Turkey".
I think the majority of the orangery wall is original, just some sections they have cut off the top and relayed new bricks, which is a cheap way of "fixing" old walls. But I maybe wrong.
Yes it was the dry wooden floors with years or rubbish underneath that made perfect kindling that helped burn down the palace, also the wind direction helped.
In the 1866 fire the wind was blowing the other way which helped save most of the building.
There was yet another fire in 1937ish after the palace had burnt down near the remnants of the north side of the palace.
The South Wing that remained until the early 50s was also burnt down by vandals I believe.
The statue is of no one particular to my knowledge and meant to represent "Turkey".
I think the majority of the orangery wall is original, just some sections they have cut off the top and relayed new bricks, which is a cheap way of "fixing" old walls. But I maybe wrong.
oh you meant those tubes I thought you meant the pieces of Iron on the top of the bank.
Those tubes were possibly part of the lift system in the North Tower.
Yes we are excavating and preserving the site otherwise it becomes a jungle.
If you look at aerial photos of the site in 2002 you can barely seeing anything apart from green.
Those tubes were possibly part of the lift system in the North Tower.
Yes we are excavating and preserving the site otherwise it becomes a jungle.
If you look at aerial photos of the site in 2002 you can barely seeing anything apart from green.