http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad/
(well done Chazza)
Sydenham Road petition - a 'sticky' please Admin
Sydenham Road petition - a 'sticky' please Admin
Can we have this as a sticky link to the peition? I am concerned that other links will get lost in the thread debates. Many Thanks
http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad/
(well done Chazza)
http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad/
(well done Chazza)
Yes, please everyone sign it and go and see the exhibition.
It's a shame that some miss-informed people have signed a petition against these improvements. It's a good scheme for pedestrians and motorists. It is better for shopowners.
If this doesn't happen now it probably never will. We will be stuck with what we have.
Don't let this opportunity get away.
It's a shame that some miss-informed people have signed a petition against these improvements. It's a good scheme for pedestrians and motorists. It is better for shopowners.
If this doesn't happen now it probably never will. We will be stuck with what we have.
Don't let this opportunity get away.
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Pat Trembath
- Posts: 613
- Joined: 2 Oct 2004 10:54
Reminder. Exhibition is open this week on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday evenings from 5 - 8 pm and on Saturday 24 October from 11 am till 3 pm and meanwhile dont forget to sign the petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad/
http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad/
"Admin is neutral on this issue as there is a genuine conflict between different road users and priorities." Neutrality should ensure that both sides of the question are put fairly - and they haven't been.
I can do no better than quote from someone who has recently signed the online petition
"The high street proposals and refurbishment are desperately needed and long overdue, being some 3 years in development. The arguments portrayed by the local opposition group are generally inaccurate and bear no reflection to the current scheme, and should therefore not be considered as 'material' in any planning decision"
Admin also invites us to "believe the (STF) Poll results". What a pointless exercise if all that STF can muster on one of the most important issues facing this area in the last 20 years is 30 votes!
Sign the online petition please. This is the one that counts.
http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad
I can do no better than quote from someone who has recently signed the online petition
"The high street proposals and refurbishment are desperately needed and long overdue, being some 3 years in development. The arguments portrayed by the local opposition group are generally inaccurate and bear no reflection to the current scheme, and should therefore not be considered as 'material' in any planning decision"
Admin also invites us to "believe the (STF) Poll results". What a pointless exercise if all that STF can muster on one of the most important issues facing this area in the last 20 years is 30 votes!
Sign the online petition please. This is the one that counts.
http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad
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Mr Tiggins
- Posts: 3
- Joined: 9 Oct 2009 10:24
- Location: Sydenham
Hello everyone
I agree that Sydenham Road is currently in a bad state and that it does not reflect the quality of the area or the people who live nearby, and that it subsequently needs redevelopment.
However, am I right to feel nervous that road narrowing will encourage traffic to flow down the neighbouring residential streets (e.g. Newlands Park -> Lennard Road -> Kent House Road)?
I experienced a similar situation in the 1990s when living in Wimbledon. During this period the town centre had fallen in to a depressing state and similarly needed updating, but the proposal of a revamped and partially pedestrianised High Street blinkered some people from recognising the inevitable damage caused by traffic being redirected from the main road towards the surrounding residential areas.
The quiet street where I used to live firstly saw a large increase in traffic, which then required the implementation calming devises (i.e. road humps) to deter drivers from using it in order to bypass the town centre. When this failed, a 20mph speed limit was additionally introduced; then finally expensive 9am-11pm parking restricting permits were brought in to prevent shoppers and commuters from parking up during the day. Other than the parking permits, none of these introductions worked, and the area is still more congested than ever.
Essentially, I do not have a thorough enough knowledge of the road-networks in Forest Hill, Sydenham, Penge, Anerley to understand whether this is a well planned proposal; so can anyone enlighten me as to how the traffic be absorbed if Sydenham Road becomes more restrictive as a through-route?
I agree that Sydenham Road is currently in a bad state and that it does not reflect the quality of the area or the people who live nearby, and that it subsequently needs redevelopment.
However, am I right to feel nervous that road narrowing will encourage traffic to flow down the neighbouring residential streets (e.g. Newlands Park -> Lennard Road -> Kent House Road)?
I experienced a similar situation in the 1990s when living in Wimbledon. During this period the town centre had fallen in to a depressing state and similarly needed updating, but the proposal of a revamped and partially pedestrianised High Street blinkered some people from recognising the inevitable damage caused by traffic being redirected from the main road towards the surrounding residential areas.
The quiet street where I used to live firstly saw a large increase in traffic, which then required the implementation calming devises (i.e. road humps) to deter drivers from using it in order to bypass the town centre. When this failed, a 20mph speed limit was additionally introduced; then finally expensive 9am-11pm parking restricting permits were brought in to prevent shoppers and commuters from parking up during the day. Other than the parking permits, none of these introductions worked, and the area is still more congested than ever.
Essentially, I do not have a thorough enough knowledge of the road-networks in Forest Hill, Sydenham, Penge, Anerley to understand whether this is a well planned proposal; so can anyone enlighten me as to how the traffic be absorbed if Sydenham Road becomes more restrictive as a through-route?
Mt Tiggins - Can I suggest that you come down to the exhibition in the old curtain shop (corner of Queensthorpe Road/Sydenham Road) - open this evening from 5pm-8pm and tomorrow (Saturday) from 1am-3pm.
You can then address these issues with the officers working on the scheme.
There is no proposal to "restrict traffic" as part of this scheme. Traffic flow studies indicate that the total number of cars able to travel through our high street will slightly increase once the new scheme is in operation. The engineers took a large group of locals through a one hour traffic flow sequence at a public meeting just over a year ago to prove this point.
Parking permits/Controlled Parking Schemes are no part of this scheme. Restricted park zones are due to increases in the number of vehicles parking locally; they have nothing whatsoever to do with the layout of roads.
http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad/
You can then address these issues with the officers working on the scheme.
There is no proposal to "restrict traffic" as part of this scheme. Traffic flow studies indicate that the total number of cars able to travel through our high street will slightly increase once the new scheme is in operation. The engineers took a large group of locals through a one hour traffic flow sequence at a public meeting just over a year ago to prove this point.
Parking permits/Controlled Parking Schemes are no part of this scheme. Restricted park zones are due to increases in the number of vehicles parking locally; they have nothing whatsoever to do with the layout of roads.
http://www.petitiononline.com/sydroad/