Hello All!
I live on the south side of Fransfield Grove, and have been doing a bit of research as to when it was built, mainly using this wonderful site. As far as i can tell it was sometime in the 1880s.
On an 1879 map, the grove exists but only with two houses, one at each end, so I assume the gap was filled between them at a later date.
The architecture around the doors and windows of the two older buildings is similar to the row of shops next to the Costcutter on Kirkdale, wheras the middle lot are slightly more plain.
Can anyone point me in the right direction to find out a little more about this?
Fransfield Grove
There was a link to Lewisham Local History Centre in an earlier thread:
http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/LeisureAndCu ... vesCentre/
Also Kirkdale bookshop do sell a series of old (late 19th century and early 20th century) maps of the area and several local history books, which you might find useful.
Eagle: I would suggest investing in a London A-Z if there's a road you've not come across before. Writing in capitals is also seen by many web users as the equivalent of shouting, which might put some people off.
http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/LeisureAndCu ... vesCentre/
Also Kirkdale bookshop do sell a series of old (late 19th century and early 20th century) maps of the area and several local history books, which you might find useful.
Eagle: I would suggest investing in a London A-Z if there's a road you've not come across before. Writing in capitals is also seen by many web users as the equivalent of shouting, which might put some people off.
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Steve Grindlay
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I agree with your dating of those houses, Tubby. By the time the 1891 census was compiled the whole of the south side of the road was occupied. Yet in the 1887 Kelly's Directory, apart from the houses at either end, only nos. 3, 9 and 23 appear to be occupied. This strongly suggests that the terrace was built 1886-1887.
Your best bet, if you've not already done so, would be to visit Lewisham Local History Centre (Thomas has given the link above) and ask to see the drainage plans for Fransfield Grove. At that time, whenever new buildings were connected to the drainage system the builder had to submit plans to the local authority. If you're lucky, they'll give you the date the application was made, the name of the builder and an outline plan of the buildings.
Your best bet, if you've not already done so, would be to visit Lewisham Local History Centre (Thomas has given the link above) and ask to see the drainage plans for Fransfield Grove. At that time, whenever new buildings were connected to the drainage system the builder had to submit plans to the local authority. If you're lucky, they'll give you the date the application was made, the name of the builder and an outline plan of the buildings.
Wow, thanks for that, you dont get that kind of service in many organisations.
Ive never been into the Kirkdale bookshop, but have heard good things about it. Ill be paying them a visit. Also the local History Centre.
By the way, great time-travel-towel pick up gag in your FH pools documentary Steve!
Ive never been into the Kirkdale bookshop, but have heard good things about it. Ill be paying them a visit. Also the local History Centre.
By the way, great time-travel-towel pick up gag in your FH pools documentary Steve!
YEAH. On the 1879 map, i think its Stanfords, theres only houses at each end of Fransfield grove, and you can see today these are slightly different architecturally to the rest of the terrace, so im wondering what was in the gap until someone filled it with more houses.
Wierdly on the Stanford 1878 map there appears to be the whole terrace there.
Wierdly on the Stanford 1878 map there appears to be the whole terrace there.