Chulsa Estate House Names - WW2 casulties

[Guest]

I am interested in the names given to the houses on the Chulsa estate.
You can find most of them with reference to the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission. They are a mixture of AFS and CD casualties of
WWII.

There were 30 AFS killed in three incidents in the blitz of 1941. Their
names are commemorated in the developments at Newlands Park, Oak-
field and Perth Rds, Seward Rd, Churchflelds Rd and Border Crescent.
Others at Border Crescent and Chulsa Rd are of Wardens and Heavy
Rescue fatalities.

My main query is over Bailey House in Border Crescent and Bailey Place
at Newlands Park.

Which one is for Ron Bailey AFS and which is for Henry Bailey Heavy
Rescue? I would imagine that Bailey Place is for Ron Bailey and that
Bailey House is for Henry Bailey but where can I find out for sure.
(Beacon and Chalmers are AFS at Border Crescent.)

I can try the local papers and Beckenham Council Minutes but it would
be easier to do this if I knew the date of the building and unveiling of
these houses. I have also sent a message to the Broomleigh Housing Or-
ganisation.

I am writing a book on the Beckenham AFS for early 2005 and will happily send you the details about these houses if you would be interested.

Yours sincerely,
Pat M

[Guest]

I found the story of Len George (one of the houses on the Chulsa estate) yesterday.

He had been a Heavy Rescue leader throughout the war and rescued countless people but his luck ran out when he tried to save a man trapped at the Elmers End bus garage incident on 18.7.1944 and was crushed beneath a wall. What I need is the year when the houses were built and named so that I can find out which Bailey gave his name to Bailey House.

Then I've more or less got it stitched up!

Sincerely
Pat

[Davemo]

I am interested in the names given to the houses on the Chulsa estate.
You can find most of them with reference to the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission. They are a mixture of AFS and CD casualties of
WWII.

There were 30 AFS killed in three incidents in the blitz of 1941. Their
names are commemorated in the developments at Newlands Park, Oak-
field and Perth Rds, Seward Rd, Churchflelds Rd and Border Crescent.
Others at Border Crescent and Chulsa Rd are of Wardens and Heavy
Rescue fatalities.

My main query is over Bailey House in Border Crescent and Bailey Place
at Newlands Park.

Which one is for Ron Bailey AFS and which is for Henry Bailey Heavy
Rescue? I would imagine that Bailey Place is for Ron Bailey and that
Bailey House is for Henry Bailey but where can I find out for sure.
(Beacon and Chalmers are AFS at Border Crescent.)

I can try the local papers and Beckenham Council Minutes but it would
be easier to do this if I knew the date of the building and unveiling of
these houses. I have also sent a message to the Broomleigh Housing Or-
ganisation.

I am writing a book on the Beckenham AFS for early 2005 and will happily send you the details about these houses if you would be interested.

Yours sincerely,
Pat M

[JCM3000]

I live on the Chulsa Estate, the deeds to my flat say that this block was built in 1953. Anyone know the origin of the word 'Chulsa' by the way?

[Steve Grindlay]

"Chulsa" was simply the name of the house that originally occupied the site. The house actually had several names. It was built for John Scott Russell in 1855, who called it "Westwood Lodge". By the 1890s it was called "Ormidale" and by the early 20th century it was known as "Chulsa".

A quick google search suggests that Chulsa might have something to do with tea so maybe it was occupied by yet another tea merchant.

[catscratch]

The is at least one memorial in Elmers End cemetary to Blitz casualties, the Fire Service I think.
Thats the cemetary oposite where the bus garage used to be; follow the main drive, its on the right hand side, quite a way in.