Moderation of London Elects

[gone again]

As the author of the removed post, which contained no offensive remarks, intemparate language or opinion nor abusive remarks about either Boris or Red Ken I feel somewhat agrieved especially as I have been the subject of several slaps from the management I went out of my way to avoid giving offence.
What the post contained was a comment on the bad grace of the left wing when on the losing end of a vote.

It would seem that critiscism of the left wing politics of the forum admin is something not allowed,
tolerance of others views is not a part of the desired egalitarian society if they differ from the ruling elite it seems.
I have been and still am a union member for 40 years, and was active in a lot of radical action in my youth.
If you want to post here be sure your views agree with those of the admin

I wonder how long it will be before this one goes

[Steve Grindlay]

As the author of the removed post, which contained no offensive remarks, intemparate language or opinion nor abusive remarks

A few examples from the post:

noisy lefties who are always banging on about democracy [...] moaning [...] moaning

litle [sic] hitlers that run TFL

bully boys that Ken uses to persecute motorists

By my standards that's intemperate language; but then, unlike you, I didn't go to Eton.

[admin]

It would seem that critiscism of the left wing politics of the forum admin is something not allowed,

Incorrect. Very few posts on this forum have ever needed to be removed. Everyone of those has had an explanation as to why, None has ever been on a political point.

I would refer you to your own posts which express your political postion are still standing. .

The removal of your post today was because standing rule for this thread was no Ken or Boris bashing. You knew and agreed to that. You then deliberately defied it. Your view that comparing one of these (it matters not which) to the worst genocidal murderer of all time and then suggesting you went out of the way to be inoffensive does somewhat stretch credulity.

Such guidelines as this forum has are designed to encourage the widest debate. You appear to me to have set out to breach the guidelines and then cry foul.

You then accuse me of political bias when you can have no idea of what my political views are. I think it fair to ask you to put evidence to substantiate your claims of bias which we can discuss - or withdraw your claim. Over to you.

Admin

[georgemichael]

But Admin, can I draw your attention to the thread following the Forum poll? Many postings of a similar nature there:

Quote from Bovine Juice: It has to be Ken. Boris may be an affable buffoon but to be honest I don't really want a buffoon running London...

Quote from Poppy: Who really wants that buffoon Boris as mayor? It would be a catastrophe.....he is a pillock!

Quote from Juwlz (with 10 reasons not to vote for Boris) ....for those out there thinking of voting for Boris, lets hope this email will help you change your mind:

How come you let all these comments through? In the Town Hall? Surely the conversation was more Pub standard?!!

[gone again]

Thank you for that george micheal.

I would also add falkors lauguage in his good bye speech. Plenty more, especaily from Falkor who was not restrained in his language or attitude.

As for picking out the phrase "little hitler" and "bully boys" as intemperate language that is really scraping the bottom of the barrel of poitical correctness.
The quotes so kindly supplied by george just reflect this one sidedness
I bashed neither Ken nor Boris in that post.

Niether did I use those phrases to apply directly to boris or ken;
admin in his haste to censor this poster will not read the post properly, much the same as when he removed me as kennyb.
What we are seeing is the bad grace of bad losers, and I am beginning to believe a degree of personal bias on the side of admin.


Neither did I go to Eton, big sense of humour collapse there admin , or did personal predjudice get in the way? I have recently stated here that I went to forest hill school in the 50s. Thats Forest hill Se not Forest hill Eton.

You want an egalitarian society?
Then reinstate the post and let others judge.
But you won't because after all, as some one at the beginning of the Boris post pointed out, the poll showed the political bias of the form, not of the voters, but of this forum which is not only hard left it seems but intolerant hard left, well is there any other kind?
As I said I am life long union member, communist in my youth till I saw the light[ they are all the same ] and I have the arrest records from the 60s from the radical actions of those days.
Like Falkor I am gone for good after this Its been made plain I`m not wanted if I won't toe the party line.
you have the advantage of having the last word admin, which places me at a permanent disadvantage.

[admin]

Yes - you are right that the Election Poll thread did become a Ken & Boris bashing exercise. We've always run a hustings style thread leading up to elections and I hope that more than amply demonstrates that views are encouraged irrespective of political outlook (GA's criticism).

The post election thread looked as if it was going the same way. As you pointed outs (and so did I) that further stuff of this sort should be in Town Pub. GA deliberately defied this. If that had been a singular incident I would have let it go with maybe a minor admonishment.

However GA under two other usernames has a repeated track record of postings in clear and obvious contempt for the normal rules of debate. He continually refuses to abide by his own agreements. I can only conclude his objective is to wind up as many people as possible. And succeeding!

He is now making extremely serious allegations as to political bias in the moderation of the Forum. If they were true it would make a mockery of any claim to be a community forum and I, for one, would not want to be part of it.

So lets get to the core question. Is the moderation of the forum (however imperfect) politically biased?

Admin

[gone again]

Thank you for that george micheal.

I would also add falkors lauguage in his good bye speech. Plenty more, especaily from Falkor who was not restrained in his language or attitude.

As for picking out the phrase "little hitler" and "bully boys" as intemperate language that is really scraping the bottom of the barrel of poitical correctness.
The quotes so kindly supplied by george just reflect this one sidedness
I bashed neither Ken nor Boris in that post.

Niether did I use those phrases to apply directly to boris or ken;
admin in his haste to censor this poster will not read the post properly, much the same as when he removed me as kennyb.
What we are seeing is the bad grace of bad losers, and I am beginning to believe a degree of personal bias on the side of admin.


Neither did I go to Eton, big sense of humour collapse there admin , or did personal predjudice get in the way? I have recently stated here that I went to forest hill school in the 50s. Thats Forest hill Se not Forest hill Eton.

You want an egalitarian society?
Then reinstate the post and let others judge.
But you won't because after all, as some one at the beginning of the Boris post pointed out, the poll showed the political bias of the form, not of the voters, but of this forum which is not only hard left it seems but intolerant hard left, well is there any other kind?
As I said I am life long union member, communist in my youth till I saw the light[ they are all the same ] and I have the arrest records from the 60s from the radical actions of those days.
Like Falkor I am gone for good after this Its been made plain I`m not wanted if I won't toe the party line.
you have the advantage of having the last word admin, which places me at a permanent disadvantage.

one final PS
I do not post "wind ups" I have views which may be right or wrong, total nonsense, thats my priviledge, I do not impose them on others, they may ridicule them if they wish...the only person getting wound up is admin, I posted as gone and gone again after being removed in my original post ID kennyb because admin did not like my devils advocate style of enjoying a good arguement on a subject of the sort I can argue either side of, OK, my language may have been robust at times but thats my south london upbringing.
You could also, as you know who I have posted as, brought in the posts wherein as kennyb I tried to contribute to the town museum, but you did not, because you are attempting to put your own spin on matters to justify your own predujice.
thats it cheerio.

[admin]

Neither did I go to Eton, big sense of humour collapse there admin ,

Shum mistake? Never mentioned Eton or your education ...

You want an egalitarian society?

No comment

Then reinstate the post and let others judge.

Technically not possible. And Godwin's Law would make it a lost point anyway ..

But you won't because after all, as some one at the beginning of the Boris post pointed out, the poll showed the political bias of the form, not of the voters, but of this forum which is not only hard left it seems but intolerant hard left, well is there any other kind@?

The Forum election poll showed a result not terribly out of line with the normal voting pattern in the ward considering the demographics. It is Sydenham - not Beckenham! You would expect a strong Labour majority. Checkout the L&G result. In local elections we actually go out of our way to help all the parties from the Greens to UKIP to get their message across.

You imply that because there is a Labour majority then the Admin is Labour. I'm sure they would be pleased to know that. I know they would be surprised!

I've never tried to restrict your political viewpoint GA. Hence this thread! I have tried, and failed, to restrict the manner you say it. I see the two as very different. Do you?

You could also, as you know who I have posted as, brought in the posts wherein as kennyb I tried to contribute to the town museum, but you did not, because you are attempting to put your own spin on matters to justify your own predujice.

I have never touched your postings in TM&G.

You are very welcome to your last unspun word. But please don't attribute to me words I have never said, views I have never held and actions I have never done.

Admin

[Steve Grindlay]

The original reference to Eton was mine, when I mentioned that Boris Johnson, David Cameron and George Osborne were all at Eton.

gone again, in his first post under that name, replied:

As an old Etonian myself I find those comments offensive.

My subsequent reference to gone again's having gone to Eton was meant to be ironic.

Actually, now I check the thread, "egalitarian" was also my term. I do hope I'm not being confused with Admin.

And, georgemichael, the reference to Boris Johnson as a "buffoon" is widespread; Google returns some 125,000 hits including many from his own friends and supporters. Indeed, some have suggested that his buffoonery was a deliberate part of his campaign, and certainly added something to his appeal. Permitting members of the forum to use that term, at least, can hardly imply bias on the part of Admin.

[sydeman]

After reading the other postings, i dare say the situation would be different if Red Ken had won the election!

[admin]

Sydeman,

You do not know my politics. I take care not to reveal them here. I take even greater care to prevent them effecting moderation.

If you can point out where I have failed in any of these I am willing to take note, mend my ways or resign as appropriate.

Over to you.

Admin

[sydeman]

I have no interest in your politics, nor for that matter many other peoples. I was implying i supported the other members who had written in to this posting, in that i get abit tired of people not acccepting the democratic will of the people.

Got a response though, which was good fun!