WG Grace
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WG Grace
It's 100 years today since the passing of the great WG Grace, who lived in Sydenham for many years.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/34602879
A true legend!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/34602879
A true legend!
Re: WG Grace
Yes I noticed this landmark . An amazing sportsman , He resides in Beckenham Crem along with Thomas Crapper.
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There was a good documentary about him on Radio 4 this morning:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06k95ct
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06k95ct
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Re: WG Grace
Yes - I have long said he deserves to have a statue of him at the roundabout by the Greyhound. Not everyone's cup of tea (either Grace or said statue), but I think it would look fabulous (visitors to Sydenham from the North being greeted by a Victorian sporting giant with a huge beard and hitting a 6 for England!)
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I for one would support such a statue.
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I can see it now up on a lovely stone plinth... a lovely bronze like this one (if only.... )
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3417457
(in fairness to the image - The statue, by Louis Laumen, is in the Coronation Garden.
© Copyright John Sutton and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence)
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3417457
(in fairness to the image - The statue, by Louis Laumen, is in the Coronation Garden.
© Copyright John Sutton and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence)
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Re: WG Grace
Out of the question, I'm afraid. 'A single figure on a pedestal (or a roundabout) is a figure of authority, not inclusion', say the experts. See https://sydenham.org.uk/forum/viewtopic ... rt#p118215
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Not a fan of cricket but i would support a statue of WG - whether "inclusive" or not .
It seems highly relevant to Sydenham and quite fitting .
Of course if anyone finds a link to Ghandi , the Dalai Lama or even Roy Orbison happy to go with the too , but until then ,WG could be a good bet .
Best of all a beautiful tree like at the roundabout in Sydenham Avenue but that of course is unlikely to happen .
A very good evening
Nigel
It seems highly relevant to Sydenham and quite fitting .
Of course if anyone finds a link to Ghandi , the Dalai Lama or even Roy Orbison happy to go with the too , but until then ,WG could be a good bet .
Best of all a beautiful tree like at the roundabout in Sydenham Avenue but that of course is unlikely to happen .
A very good evening
Nigel
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Re: WG Grace
To whom do we need to speak in order to add Mr William Gilbert Grace to a position on the roundabout?
As Nigel said, you don't need to be a cricket fan to appreciate the contribution he made to the local area.
As Nigel said, you don't need to be a cricket fan to appreciate the contribution he made to the local area.
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Someone with lots of spare money, perhaps?Mayowthorpe wrote:To whom do we need to speak in order to add Mr William Gilbert Grace to a position on the roundabout?.
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Fine cricketer , but not good sportsman.
When given out would often stay saying the public have come to see me so not out.
Already a Plaque in Lorry Park Road
If a Plaque or Statue installed at Cobb's Corner, do not forget good old Walter himself.
When given out would often stay saying the public have come to see me so not out.
Already a Plaque in Lorry Park Road
If a Plaque or Statue installed at Cobb's Corner, do not forget good old Walter himself.
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Very witty old chap.
He was the person the public came to see and he was determined that they should whether he was given out , or not.
I wonder if he ever drank in The Greyhound ?
Infact who was the first drinker in the esteemed establishment ? Ethelread the Unread perhaps.
He was the person the public came to see and he was determined that they should whether he was given out , or not.
I wonder if he ever drank in The Greyhound ?
Infact who was the first drinker in the esteemed establishment ? Ethelread the Unread perhaps.
Re: WG Grace
Grace wasn't quite such dishonourable sportsman he is often portrayed as - and don't forget that while routinely condemned in cricket for 'shamateurism', he used to waive fees for poorer patients in his Bristol GP practice. I heartily recommend Richard Tomlinson's new biography 'Amazing Grace: the Man who was WG'. Copies are available, I believe, in Kirkdale books.
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A statue on the Cobbs Corner roundabout would be a great idea. We could have a competition as to which famous resident of Sydenham should be so honoured. I don't think a cricketer, however illustrious, trumps Ernest Shaclketon, or Elenor Marx, or my particular favourite, a statue to the building workers killed in the construction of Crystal Palace and memorialised in the churchyard of St Barts. A statue to all the workers who died in the service of capitalism.
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I will add my vote to those two groups as well.sparticus wrote:a statue to the building workers killed in the construction of Crystal Palace and memorialised in the churchyard of St Barts. A statue to all the workers who died in the service of capitalism.