Gourmet Burger Kitchen for Sydenham

[Ulysses]

I do hope it is not baby seal salt you will be buying.

Apparently there's a club for everyone wanting to buy some of that.

I wonder what they use it fur.


I still don't get this obsession some people seem to have with Lesser Dulwich. If it's posh you're after then it's West Dulwich [Dulwich Village], every time. I have a number of friends living in East Dulwich and it ain't all that. Lots and lots of pokey two bed terraces and pretty poor transport links. Sure, it's got infinitely better shops than we but none of the views, housing stock, greenery or transport links that we enjoy.

This is why I take such delight in the travails of the nasty shops on the High St. These vendors of tat are costing us all money. On the one hand it's great that Sydders is more affordable than it ought to be thanks to the pound shops but on the other hand it's these dodgy [non] businessmen that keep Sydders in the doldrums...that and this town centre person.

Conservatively, a decent parade of shops nearby can add 14% to your house value. A poor one (as in our case) can knock anything up to 20% OFF the value...

So every pound shop our esteemed *cough* town centre person puts in cost us. When you put it like that you can see why I am so unwilling to give this person any latitude.

Rant over...seal salt. I'm sure we'd get in our own little gem, the organic/health shop Wellbeing!

[stuart]

Conservativley, a decent parade of shops nearby can add 14% to your house value. A poor one (as in our case) can knock anything up to 20% OFF the value....

On the other hand it was, perhaps, the shops that made Sydenham affordable for us and why we are here. No where else at these prices has so many green parks, wide roads etc. Oh and consequently a wide variety of people.

Much better than the homogenised neighbourhoods that plague much of London. Some ultra-gentified or drab council estate ghettos or oppressive rows and rows of flatted housing stock. (Yes SE26 has some of each but at lower cost and easy to escape).

So bless those shops in a way. While I might personally appreciate the capital gain of our high street being gentrified I would take the money and run rather than living in 'Sarf' Dulwich.

Stuart

[Julsb]

I simply do not understand the binary approach so many regulars here take. Why does Sydenham Road have to poundshops OR yoga studios? Why not a mix of the two?

[Eagle]

Stuart
What % to the house prices is added to by the tattoo'd 24/7 drinkers who perform a service by abusing decent folk. Not sure how they afford the alcohol.

[Ulysses]

I don't think, from memory, I've ever read a post stating that anyone wishes Sydders to be a middle-class ghetto Julsb?

But then again where is? I constantly reference West Greenwich as it's the only other place I've lived in London so it's my only other frame of reference. It has it's boutiques and it's opposites. And if you really want roughness you can head past the Naval College to East Greewnich (Maze Hill and Westcombe Park).

The general consensus seems to be that people yearn for more variety here - a greater mix - than we have currently. I've written before, the High St is 'exclusive' and not in the traditional sense.

If you're poor and live on one of the estates...then knock yourself out! Sydenham High Street must mainly be a haven. If not, then pickings are slim.

Although this is mercifully changing and at a decent-ish pace. I'm looking forward to the Yoga studio as is my partner, although she mainly does that Bikram Yoga.

[Julsb]

Oh come on - there is a regular criticism of any desire for different shops along the lines of, "we don't want Sydenham to become poncy and overpriced." Any wish to see a Gourmet Burger, a Pizza Express or anything of that ilk nearly always attracts someone who feels they must complain that the desired business is too expensive, or bad value, or not as good as [insert some personal hobby horse here].

I am flabbergasted you're now saying you haven't seen any of it, especially as you are usually one of the people who pushes back on it.

[Ulysses]

Oh come on - there is a regular criticism of any desire for different shops along the lines of, "we don't want Sydenham to become poncy and overpriced." Any wish to see a Gourmet Burger, a Pizza Express or anything of that ilk nearly always attracts someone who feels they must complain that the desired business is too expensive, or bad value, or not as good as [insert some personal hobby horse here].

I am flabbergasted you're now saying you haven't seen any of it, especially as you are usually one of the people who pushes back on it.

Keep trying Julsb. You're getting closer with every attempt.

Perhaps you can provide some quotes but I certainly cannot recall anyone coming on here and saying 'we don't want an organic butchers' etc. If anything this forum is littered with protestations regarding yet another nasty chicken shop [JS Chicken being one thread that springs to mind] or numerous wish-lists of what we want this decrepit current High Street to become. Sure, you get the odd moan at prices in The Dolphin but they are generally intrinsically not The Dolphin's target demographic...in most cases.

If you can show me more than two threads saying "let's keep Sydders High St cr*p" or more than 10 posts saying "I don't want a Gourmet Burger Kitchen" then I too will be flabbergasted.