Deadline approaching in battle to save The Windmill

[Nigel]

Tim
Even by your standards that was a non sequitur - what do you mean you know two Romanians and they are nice ?
Nobody has said they were not - I assume from your very scientific approach these would be ethnic Roma , with no intention to make demands on our health , housing or welfare so well done you .
No doubt that kind of middle class snickering is your way of saying that anyone who has concerns about EU extension is wrong , racist or just plain stupid?

As Eagle intimated , the potential or not for a job in a shop is a huge thing or those out of work and it is a shame to see you playing debating societies over real issues , as opposed to whether Nietzsche would have opposed Bell Green development - an area for which you are eminently qualified
Good afternoon
Nigel

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[Annie.]

I had the misfortune to come down White foot lane today, again I cannot believe the horrendous "New Builds" talk about piling them in! Frightening, how did the council approve this?

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[marymck]

I agree with EUSSR totally. I designate 3-5 minutes for a trip to an Express store. In, out, bang bang. I'm usually too busy needing to get to work or be at any other place than Sydenham to socialise. However if they strike up conversation I will pleasantly reply.

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Well, there are quite a few of us who DO want to socialize in Sydenham. So we need to save our few remaining pubs.

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[Robin Orton]

Er..... I appreciate that this thread has wandered around a bit, but I'd be grateful if Annie would explain the relevance to the earlier discussion of her most recent posting,

[Tim Lund]

Tim
Even by your standards that was a non sequitur - what do you mean you know two Romanians and they are nice ?

I guess I was just pointing out that there are already Romanians here, contributing to the vitality of our High Street, working in shops, and not ones just targeted at their own community, and helping make the experience of shopping locally that much more positive for me at least.

[Annie.]

Er..... I appreciate that this thread has wandered around a bit, but I'd be grateful if Annie would explain the relevance to the earlier discussion of her most recent posting,

Erm, I don't have to explain myself to any one in this life Robin, but just to show willing, I was adding to Nigel's post about the Bell Green development .

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[Robin Orton]

Erm, I don't have to explain myself to any one in this life Robin [...]

Did I suggest you did? I was only asking.

[Nigel]

Annie
I agree re those huge developments on Southend/Whitefoot lane .
Two things for me - one we have now offically lost control of London's skyline - whether that monstrosity or some awful Dubai -style office block obscuring St. Paul's and two, the housing density would be enough to make to make even Tim salivate with excitement .
That is the very real price we are already paying for the "Welcome to Lewisham"approach to housing
A very good evening
Nigel

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[Annie.]

Erm, I don't have to explain myself to any one in this life Robin [...]

Did I suggest you did? I was only asking.

No Robin, you were asking me to "explain" my post

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[Robin Orton]

No Robin, you were asking me to "explain" my post

Indeed. What's wrong with that? I didn't understand why you were posting about Whitefoot Lane on this thread. Now I do. Thank you.

[Annie.]

The Anti-Christ, Zarathustra, the will to power - whatever have you been reading, Tim?

And this was relevant?

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[hairybuddha]

Annie
I agree re those huge developments on Southend/Whitefoot lane .
Two things for me - one we have now offically lost control of London's skyline - whether that monstrosity or some awful Dubai -style office block obscuring St. Paul's and two, the housing density would be enough to make to make even Tim salivate with excitement .
That is the very real price we are already paying for the "Welcome to Lewisham"approach to housing
A very good evening
Nigel

Yes, I too much prefer the old fashioned, small c approach:

"WELCOME TO SYDENHAM"

[JRobinson]

I go to a shop to buy things not to chat, if want to chat then theres plenty of other places and people to do that with.

All I want in a shop is , pleases and thankyous, not chat

So you agree that The Windmill should not become a supermarket and remain a pub then?
(we don't need another place to shop, and we don't want one less place to chat and socialise)

[Robin Orton]

The Anti-Christ, Zarathustra, the will to power - whatever have you been reading, Tim?

And this was relevant?

Not particularly; it was a facetious comment on various earlier postings, one which Tim later picked up on, in similarly jocular vein. I on the other hand failed to recognize which earlier posting in this thread you were commenting on. Thank you for helping me out with that.

[Annie.]

I find most conversations change, they go from subject to subject then back again.
I prefer this as it can get boring sticking to the main topic,
Nigel mentioned the Bell green development,so planning came to my mind, which made me comment on the Whitefoot Lane buildings.

Just to clear it up for you Robin.

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[Robin Orton]

I find most conversations change, they go from subject to subject then back again.
I prefer this as it can get boring sticking to the main topic

Couldn't agree more.

Just to clear it up for you Robin.

Thanks again, Annie, most grateful.

[marymck]

I go to a shop to buy things not to chat, if want to chat then theres plenty of other places and people to do that with.

All I want in a shop is , pleases and thankyous, not chat

So you agree that The Windmill should not become a supermarket and remain a pub then?
(we don't need another place to shop, and we don't want one less place to chat and socialise)

No I dont agree that the Windmill shouldnt become a sainsburys etc. and remain a pub, dont try and put words in my mouth

And if I did want to go to a pub to chat it certainly wouldnt be the Windmill, it wouldnt even be on my list let alone at the bottom of the list ! And yes a I have been there...but not by choice thats for sure

At the end of the day I couldnt care less what happens to it, but if it is to remain a pub then it needs to be a game changer, as already stated, it will need to price out the lowlife that seems to like it there, it will need to be rebuilt and redecorated so as not to resemble a throwback to the seventies or an airport/station bar of the same era.
Its far too big etc etc etc...not much going for it really.

And i'm not knocking the staff, the ones that were there when I had to go there were fine , the pub is what it is because of where it is, and the owners M.O
you only have to see the type of "entertainment" it puts on to realise the kind of pub it is.

I don't know if it was you or Parker who said in an earlier post that you don't socialize in Sydenham anyway. The entertainment put on at the Windmill may not be to your taste, but - varying as it does from Freddie Mercury tributes to Bollywood nights to choirs, and catering as it does for Christening parties for first Holy Communion celebrations for hen nights for wedding receptions for wakes - large numbers of local people (like me!) do socialize there ... and long may we be able to continue to do so.

But you rather miss the point that - even if you don't like the Windmill or those of us who frequent it - if we lose the Windmill there will never be a pub on that site again. Any kind of pub. Even one that might meet your exacting standards and sell drinks at the high prices you seem to wish. Maybe you'd be fine with that. But will you be fine with losing the Bricklayer's Arms? With losing the Fox and Hounds? With losing the hundreds of Marston's pubs that are about to be sold off to supermarkets? I'm not and thankfully neither are many others.

[Eagle]

EUSSR

If indeed , as you claim , The Windmill is frequented by lowlife , then by closing it you will drive these souls to The Fox and Hounds and The Brick.

It provided the same service as The Bird in Hand in Forest Hill.

Simples

[Nigel]

Mary
I went there once - for a Bolllywood event . It was a really good night . If the pub hadnt been there I would have missed it .
I can't say the same about any bloody supermarket - especially Sainsburys .
As ever , ignore the sneering and snickering and keep on keeping on .
A very good evening
Nigel

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[Nigel]

HairyBhudda
In my irritation I forgot to reply to your inevitable inane posting .
For the record - I am against all retro type building - if we build it should be forward looking and inspirational .
So once again for your benefit by "Dubai style" I mean to express my contempt for soulless , corporate building as opposed to architecture . The building Annie and I referred to is diabolical , as is the Purelake development.

Good evening
Nigel

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