Eagle wrote:Franz
I think you are getting a wee bit carried away here. A local Tesco will mean your house price soars . I suspect any potential purchasers will have other priorities when buying.
As for raisons , I am a great fan of dried fruit but there are many outlets, even in pre Dulwichization SE 26.
Hey Eagle (and all)
Of course the price of my flat won't double because of Tesco but as they say, "every little helps..."
A home buyer looks for many things, one of those being "close amenities". Tesco today, South East Tube st. tomorrow...you get the picture.
As for dried fruit, well I like that too but they're pulling my leg over my misspelled "reasons"
Regards to all
Franz
Have I been drinking? Can't be that - I'm a confirmed teetotaller.
Perhaps it was eating pizzas twice in one week at Rafaele's?
Or that glass of diet coke I drank at the rugby club committee meeting last night? It did smell a bit off - probably been lying on the shelf for weeks!
First comes Franz telling us that the arrival of Tesco in Kirkdale means that a "South East Tube st. (station?)" is just round the corner.
When a level-headed guy like you thinks that it is me that's strange, then I really start to worry. Perhaps I'm the one who is totally out of touch with reality.
You live just round the corner from The Woodman. Tell me. Do you think that a tube station is likely to open in Kirkdale soon?
Perhaps the new tube station is that ugly-looking yellow building masquerading as a block of flats?
I have a feel the South East tube station is a reference to Sydenham becoming an ELL "London Overground" Station.
IMHO a Tesco is an opportunity for a local merchant to specialise in products and not have to carry "everything". A smaller independent could be come a cheese and bread store. Use the Tesco footfall to your advantage. Just like the high street "could" use the sainsbury traffic to its advantage.
BTW, scuttlebutt is that the House of curtains will be closing down due to an increase in rent...
Coll, how about that restaurant / cafe? nice big space...
nasaroc wrote:
First comes Franz telling us that the arrival of Tesco in Kirkdale means that a "South East Tube st. (station?)" is just round the corner.
??? Hey nasaroc,
1-Yes, as incredible as it seems, "st." is the short for "station"
2-You cannot be serious (that's very McEnroe)! Don't you know that the Sydenham train station will become part of the South East line Overground Tube network in 2010/11? They have been talking about it for ages, here's a few links http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/project ... /2105.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_London_Line http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reviews ... round.html
The logo will be like the tube one, but the ring will be orange.
3-I didn't say that the arrival of Tesco MEANS that the tube station is around the corner...that's plain silly and is NOT what I wrote
4-I really think the coke you had was "spiked" well, I'm off topic now...
To all, my point was that changes (big and small) are happening and the area IS regenerating (in my opinion). The Tesco will be part of the brand new block of flats and believe me you need a few bobs for those ones!
Regards
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nasaroc wrote:Thank you for pointing this out lamb chops.
When a level-headed guy like you thinks that it is me that's strange, then I really start to worry. Perhaps I'm the one who is totally out of touch with reality.
You live just round the corner from The Woodman. Tell me. Do you think that a tube station is likely to open in Kirkdale soon?
Perhaps the new tube station is that ugly-looking yellow building masquerading as a block of flats?
AH!! now i see where you are coming from.
you were out of touch with reality in the cricket match when you were gazing off into the distance letting a ball off my bowling get cracked for four! (the fact that it was basically dark, and even I couldn't see the ball has nothing to do with it).
if that ugly building WERE changed into a tube station then at least there might be some people in it. it's been vacant for ages. they are wierd looking flats. how the hell do you get any furniture up a spiral stair?!
In a similar vein has anyone ever seen someone enter or exit the newish block of flats on Kirkdale? I mean the ones by the Windmill that look half finshed (from the outside). Wooster Stock have been flogging some of them for ages, with no obvious sale. I know the 'Oola Boola' development looks the better development in terms of finish and space in comparison to the yellow one or the Windmill one but surely someone must live there? I appreciate they're all on quite a busy road but I'd go for the Oola Boola one if I were to buy any of them.
To come back on topic if the Tesco does arrive I'll head there for my 'basics' rather than Scummerfield. I'll always support Wellbeing though when and whereever possible and in preference to a supermarket chain (apart from the Waitrose in Beckenham). Wellbeing is organic, local and good value!
House of Curtains is the old Abbey bank on Sydenham Road (if memory serves). It's right by the Natwest bank Franz, on one of the entrances to one of 'the Thorpes'.
Greg Whitehead wrote:House of Curtains is the old Abbey bank on Sydenham Road (if memory serves). It's right by the Natwest bank Franz, on one of the entrances to one of 'the Thorpes'.
I see...well, a nice espresso bar or a patisserie would be nice but being quite large I could see a bar with live music in the evening
Anyway Greg back to the Wooster Stock, it looks empty upstairs and downstairs. What about the "business space" (didn't know how to call it...sorry, not English mother tongue here ) boarded up? It's been like closed with those blue boards for ages...
Exactly what I thought Franz which, despite the rather abandoned look from the outside and the incumbent road noise, is rather surprising as it looks quite a modern and relatively high spec development from the pictures of the inside. Although Wooster Stock have used exactly the same pictures for the 249K flat as the 255K one which is very lazy and very Wooster Stock (I'm not a fan of them albeit they're ever so slightly higher up the food-chain than the bottom-dwellers Acorn).
Greg - I was wondering - what was behind this sudden flurry of posting after over a year of silence? I was quite a fan of your earlier posts, however provocative they might have been, and have you been lurking on the forum of late?
No reason Thomas. I just had enough of delusional people who were contstantly spouting 'Sydenham is poor/ it's rough/ there's no middle class people/there's no need for an Organic cafe or deli/The Dolphin will fail/you're all elitist snobs etc, etc' It was a constant battle and I got tired of it. I respected their opinion (even if I knew they were wrong) but they didn't mine. It was inverse-snobbery, plain and simple.
It just seemed that I was acutely aware that there is about a 3rd of Sydenham for whom life is tough (as with a great many supposed 'rich' areas) but they refused to believe the existence of all this nice and expensive housing that Sydenham has. I don't/didn't want Sydenham to become a middle-class ghetto but I do/did want the other 2/3s to be 'represented' (to use the vernacular) but these others couldn't see what was in front of their noses. I had no problem with the pound shops as there's some requirement (although if Sydenham IS so poor why is the Dolphin/BMC busy and the pound shops empty...?) In short I wanted my Gastropub/Deli et al and I CLEARLY WAS NOT ALONE if you look at these places on the weekend.
How many times have x/y/z posted 'where have all these yummy-Mummys with their 3wheeled buggies come from and why didn't we see them before' without acutally realising that they've always been here in large numbers (and in increasing numbers) and it's precisely because the Blue Mountain was NOT here that they didn't venture out.
People have a given right to live where they do and to shop within their means/tastes/wishes but it seemed that Sydenham was 'bottom heavy'. I'm still as unrepentant that there's huge demand for things slightly better than we had so I just thought I'd leave it.
Does that make sense?
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I think so! I was curious really in particular what people get out of using the forum and what makes them use it or not. As stated elsewhere, there is a real live STF tomorrow night in a series of Sydenham pubs for those of you who want to speak to real live people and not bash out words on a keyboard.
I would have loved to come along (if indeed I would have been invited - I assume it's open invitation?) but I've a friends birthday over in Hammersmith. I hope you all have a great time and a good laugh.
I guess, to try and make more sense, what really got to me was that these people hid and do still hide behind anonymity and just spouted banality. There's a thread on here along the lines of 'Who are you' discussing this point. I may have gotten flamed for my views but people knew I live on Knighton Park Road (toward the far end) and often get the 7.53 into town and the 6.25 back. I drink in the Dolphin, shop in Wellbeing and breakfast in BMC. For that reason I believed my views were much more valid than those of 'SydenhamCheekyChappie2004oioisaveloy' as I didn't have anything to hide behind. I even offered to post a picture, which I'll still happily do. I didn't hide behind a pseudonym unlike the others...
that's a very good point Greg. I do find that people say thigns on message boards that they wouldn't dare do in person. There are some advantages to this of course, people feeling less inhibited can make them say what they really think. However, it can go the whole hog and make debates into emotive slanging matches that are neither productive nor mature.
I, personally, enjoy poking people somewhat (I can be a bit like that in real life) - but at the encd of the day I am, or try to be, open about who I am. Whilst I won't put my name and address on here I'll happily meet anyone off the boards (and indeed have). Do people think that posters should use real names? - considering the potential danger that that may entail?
well, I'm off topic now...
) boarded up? It's been like closed with those blue boards for ages...