A dynamic mayor’s plans for his borough

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Tim Lund
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A dynamic mayor’s plans for his borough

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Not Steve Bullock's as it happens, but his higher profile peer across the Thames Estuary, Robin Wales of Newham, as reported in The Economist

This is the man reported as wanting to decamp people to Stoke on Trent. The problem, according to The Economist is that
More than half of Newham’s people do not speak English as their first language. The borough is funded by central government on the basis that it has 242,000 people, but the council reckons it has 300,000, and the police think the tally is 320,000—especially tough, when the council’s discretionary grant from the government is coming down from £310m ($482m) to £240m over three years. It is hardly surprising that Newham is weighed down by debt, and its financial position is deteriorating.

Gentrification is not a word that a Labour politician would ever use to describe his plans, but that is what "Sir" Robin’s look like. He wants to reduce the churn in Newham and turn it into a place where people buy houses, settle down and raise children.

Improving education is one way of doing that, and there Newham is doing a remarkable job. Two decades ago its students got about half as many good GCSEs as the national average. Now, despite Newham’s poverty, they are only a whisker below.

Housing policy is another. The council was recently accused of “social cleansing” because it wrote to housing associations around the country, to see whether they could accommodate any of those on housing benefit.
A whole lot of 2011 Census data has just come out, which I don't have time to go through doing comparisons, but I'd guess Lewisham has many of the same challenges. So I wonder if Lewisham also considers how its policies impact the sort of people who live here, and to what sort of mix it aims for. Do you aim for people who are more likely to vote for your political party, who will be less of a burden on the taxpayer, local or national, or do you give up, thinking it is all too complex?

I have some sympathy for how The Economist concludes, although I'd have used rather different language, so I've done some subbing
Cities need [lower price] housing

[High quality] housing is obviously better than [less high quality] housing, but [less high quality] housing [can be] better than none, and when the state gets into the business of licensing goods supply tends to fall. As Henry Overman, professor of economic geography at the London School of Economics, puts it, “schemes that restrict the ways in which we can use housing tend not to be beneficial to the poor.”

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even if reducing the supply of low-rent property were good for Newham, it would not necessarily be good for London. The churn of people has kept the city’s economy turning for centuries, and the latest batch of immigrants must have a place to disembark, find their feet and move on from. This process may not be good for the place where the newcomers arrive; but for the people who move on and up, it tends to work.
The final paragraph is an example of a point, which I have made many other times on this Forum, that we need more policies set at the London level. The saving grace of Steve Bullock is that he is perhaps not so dynamic.
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Does this remind me of slum clearance in the past which just moved one en masse to another place, so "not in our back yard" (read borough) but in another's so costs are just being moved from pillar to post yet still within local budgets. It was a master stroke to remove central funding to local, then cap it. Parliament and MEPs look more like characters from Animal Farm these days.
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I'm not sure how fair it is fair to blame Robin Wales for adopting policies which make Newham a better place to live, even if to some extent it does beggar his neighbours. Improving standards in local schools in particular must be a good thing - could anyone begrudge them attracting higher income bracket residents because of this?

What is clear is that we need higher level governance to control any 'worse for London overall' effects of Borough policies.
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Tim Lund wrote:I'm not sure how fair it is fair to blame Robin Wales for adopting policies which make Newham a better place to live, even if to some extent it does beggar his neighbours. Improving standards in local schools in particular must be a good thing - could anyone begrudge them attracting higher income bracket residents because of this?

What is clear is that we need higher level governance to control any 'worse for London overall' effects of Borough policies.
"Better place to live" for whom? Clearly not the people who'll have been shipped out. Will the higher income bracket residents be residents though, or the houses be pied a terres or enclaves so with little intention of occupants being part of a community (or sending their children to local schools), so making it posh but soulless? I don't know, but recent history says it wouldn't be the first time if that were to happen.

It seems to me that budget restraints are driving this (I'm a sharp cookie) so can Sir Robin Wales envisage a future if government recognised Newham's plight? Desperate times might call for desperate measures but so much of this government's philosophy is to cut quick and now - shouldn't the mayor have a longer term view?

Yes, I know I'm being argumentative, but some decisions can't be reversed once set in motion.
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Shipping people out, say to Stoke on Trent, is rightly controversial, but improving education definitely will bring in a more stable and affluent population, precisely because they do want to send them to the local schools.
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No-one can argue with "build it and they will come" as far as schools are concerned as many families move house to get within the radius of a good school. Not sure how "building" a good school (i.e improving current ones) equates with shipping people out unless it means fewer people in the borough for whom English is not their first language. Go figure. I'm giving up for now. Byeee.
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A good state school will push up property prices / rents, and so drive poorer people away.
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Shouldnt all state schools be good?
This really annoys me, just because of who has and who hasn't got money depends on their level of education,its wrong,I have nothing against private education, in fact I wish myself and my children could of had one, but only because it seems to be better than most state schools. Why is it better? Are there better teachers just because they are paid more? Were the teachers in private school trained in the same teacher training college as state teachers?
What is the difference between them? It should be addressed.

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It's tempting - and valid - to say all schools should be good, although there will always be variations, so weaker schools will appear bad, even as they could still be benefiting their pupils - just not as much as pupils are benefiting at some other schools. It's inevitable to end up seeing winners and losers, but better education overall is an unquestionable overall win for society.

Too much of a minefield to go into what may or may not be wrong with our schools, and whether private schools really are better, or just look that way because they can select their pupils, but I've no doubt that government action can improve overall education.

Comparisons are often deeply resented, because there are so many complicating factors, but I think they have a place. Here for example is a web site with what I believe are well respected international comparisons or educational performance - "TIMSS and PIRLS"

My reason for thinking these well respected is that I think I heard a news report recently referring to a disappointing score in PIRLS as pushing Germany some years ago to overhaul its education system, and linking this reform to its current economic success. This also relates to the comments I made on the recent Sydenham School thread
If you think back just ten years, no one would have realised that thanks to wi-fi, you didn't need to worry about wiring up buildings, or that thanks to the development of cloud computing, we wouldn't need particularly high spec PCs. So large amounts of money spent then in the hope of educating future IT enabled generations will have been wasted - unless you held Microsoft stock.

When it comes to teaching ICT, please believe me as someone who continues to earn a crust in the sector: you need no more special equipment than in say maths or languages. IT is an incredibly fast moving area, and lessons learnt about specific applications while at school will not help educate the people who can help our economy compete in later years. Our problem with IT is not that we've not bought enough of it - it's that we've not sold enough. What you need for IT is the very general ability to think precisely and abstractly - that's why I mentioned maths and languages above.
A typical example, I'd say, or New Labour's naive enthusiasm for business.
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Annie. wrote:Shouldnt all state schools be good?
This really annoys me, just because of who has and who hasn't got money depends on their level of education,its wrong,I have nothing against private education, in fact I wish myself and my children could of had one, but only because it seems to be better than most state schools. Why is it better? Are there better teachers just because they are paid more? Were the teachers in private school trained in the same teacher training college as state teachers?
What is the difference between them? It should be addressed.

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The better (higher achieving) the School is; the more selective it can be! The best teachers
get the best jobs. Not so much about money but just that one really wants a job in a failing
school where often children have a higher level of social problems too.
It's yet another self fulfilling prophesy I'm afraid:
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Debate programme just started at 8pm on BBC3 (Freeview 7) about what the Olympic legacy will be.
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