Mayow Park Tree Planting Events 28th January 2:30pm

mummycat · Post by **mummycat** » 16 Jan 2010 17:09

Friends of Mayow Park will be holding 2 Tree Planting ceremonies on Thursday 28th January at 2:30pm within the park. Bromley Reform Synagogue will be planting a Ginko to celebrate Tu B'shvat and FOMP will be planting a Larch for National Tree Week.

Tu B'shvat is a minor Jewish holiday in the Hebrew month of Shevat, usually sometime in late January or early February, that marks the "New Year of the Trees".

The Larch (Larix) is not only a popular choice of timber for building houses, boats and fences; it makes an attractive Bonsai and features in Episode 3 of Monty Python's Flying Circus. However, we don't promoise any deceased parrots, Lumberjacks or men with hankies on their heads on 28th Jan!

More information on the blog: www.mayowpark.wordpress.com

mummycat · Post by **mummycat** » 25 Jan 2010 07:26

This Thursday...

stone-penge · Post by **stone-penge** » 25 Jan 2010 11:18

mummycat wrote: we don't promoise any deceased parrots, Lumberjacks or men with hankies on their heads on 28th Jan!

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What? not even the odd yarmulke ?

mummycat · Post by **mummycat** » 28 Jan 2010 19:16

Thanks to everyone who turned up for the tree planting today - there were more people than I expected.

Tim Lund · Post by **Tim Lund** » 28 Jan 2010 20:57

Caption competition maybe?

mummycat · Post by **mummycat** » 28 Jan 2010 21:06

Thanks for those pix, Tim.

The Cat in the Hat (with the wheelbarrow).

Tim Lund · Post by **Tim Lund** » 28 Jan 2010 21:35

Something's wrong with your antennae, Chris?

Miserableold-ish git · Post by **Miserableold-ish git** » 29 Jan 2010 20:37

Was there, thought it was anice do,especially with the Rabbi explaining the "70" years, etc.
Got home from work today and found our tree outside 95/97 Mayow Road gone. No warning to us leaseholders, just Gone.
Less than 100yards between the 2 trees.
LewishamCouncil: The Mayor hiding in his BeckenhamGolfCourse hidihole
again ?
Sorry, No one should know that.
My bad!

PS. Sorry "Sir" Mayor".

mummycat · Post by **mummycat** » 29 Jan 2010 21:32

So glad you enjoyed it, MOG-ish. Are you in any of the photos in the blog: http://mayowpark.wordpress.com/

I can't stand Tree-theft. Was it dying or something?

Miserableold-ish git · Post by **Miserableold-ish git** » 29 Jan 2010 21:49

mummycat wrote:So glad you enjoyed it, MOG-ish. Are you in any of the photos in the blog:http://mayowpark.wordpress.com/

I can't stand Tree-theft. Was it dying or something?

Pretty sure it wasn't:
Had nests in there until recently and looked okay to others I spoke to today.
Not in any of the photos: I was the guy who felt alittle out of place and didn't join in with the photos as I felt I didn't deserve to be in them as I was just an "onlooker" admiring the work of others.
Just annoyed today that as a new tree was planted a tree (at least 50 yearsold) was destroyed in my/our front garden with no warning at-all.
As I said, Lewisham Council: We do what WE do, you do as WE say.

mummycat · Post by **mummycat** » 29 Jan 2010 22:10

Maybe get in touch with your Councillor and see if the tree will be replaced? Your postcode sounds like you could be in Perry Vale - contact Susan Wise. She was there yesterday (see Tim's photo).

Tim Lund · Post by **Tim Lund** » 29 Jan 2010 22:20

I'll follow this up too - pm me with your email, and I'll copy you in.

Meanwhile, for MummyCat, something to show you that you can already post pictures here which you've uploaded to your blog.

Tim Lund · Post by **Tim Lund** » 29 Jan 2010 22:50

MOG

Was it this one?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... 95,,0,1.62

I happen to have a spreadsheet listing all the trees in Perry Vale the council is responsible for, and it says there is - was? - a young but dead cherry outside 95 Mayow Road. Can you confirm that it was not dead? I have a sinking feeling that someone might have mistakenly recorded a tree as being dead, sent someone along to take it down, to whom, it being winter, it wasn't immediately obvious it was not dead.

Miserableold-ish git · Post by **Miserableold-ish git** » 30 Jan 2010 11:35

Yes that was the one:
As i said, I,m not expert, but I'm pretty sure it was okay.....
Also, an aside, the mess they left in the garden was awful:
I know its impossible to clean up all the sawdust, but getting home yesterday it looked like it had snowed (before it Did snow).

Tim Lund · Post by **Tim Lund** » 30 Jan 2010 14:27

MOG:

You wrote:

LewishamCouncil: The Mayor hiding in his BeckenhamGolfCourse hidihole

I just went round, and I can see that it's the big tree in the front garden of 97 Mayow Road that has gone - so not the one on the spreadsheet the Council sent me. What makes you think this is anything to do with Lewisham Council? Was there a TPO on it, to your knowledge? Or was this just a case of blaming the Council for anything?

Miserableold-ish git · Post by **Miserableold-ish git** » 30 Jan 2010 21:47

Tim:
Not really sure what "TPO" is, but when asked by myself & neighbours the workmen said they "worked for Lewisham Council".
Not sure what you're "accusing" me of:
We had a tree in the garden, its not there anymore.
Unless there are some people going round with 3 trucks, a machine they put the woods into to turn it into sawdust and then disappear I have no reason to think it was anyone but.

Tim Lund · Post by **Tim Lund** » 30 Jan 2010 22:24

MOG

I'm not accusing you of anything. A TPO is a Tree Preservation Order, so if a tree has a TPO, you have to get Council permission to do major work on it.

I'm interested to find out what happened here. Who owns the property?

Miserableold-ish git · Post by **Miserableold-ish git** » 31 Jan 2010 10:51

Morning.
Sorry if that came over abit abusive: Not intended, honestly.
As regards the 5 flats in 97, 3 are Council owned, 1 is in the process of " Right to buy" and I've got a 15 year mortgage (into the 10th year) on mine.
As I said, I saw the workmen at 8am that morning and they said they were trimming/pruning the tree......
When I got home it was goneThank you for trying to Help out with this.
Regards
Paul.

Tim Lund · Post by **Tim Lund** » 31 Jan 2010 16:12

Paul

The Council also sent me a list of their trees in Sydenham ward, and the tree they took down is in this list, confirmed as a beech in good condition. A possibility is that they took it down because insurers threatened them with massive bills - see
http://www.talktalk.co.uk/money/feature ... dence.html

PM me with your email address, and I'll cc you in some emails

Tim Lund · Post by **Tim Lund** » 3 Feb 2010 16:12

Re the mature copper beech in a council owned front garden that was there one morning, and gone by the evening, as described on this thread by Miserable Oldish Git. Here's what the Council says:

No insurance companies were involved in this case. Structural engineers investigating cracks in the structure of 95 and 97 reported that the movement was due to desiccation of the clay subsoil which they attributed to the tree in question.

Normally any tree suspected of causing structural damage would in the first instance be subjected to a regular heavy pruning/pollarding regime. The pruning/pollarding regime can control the water uptake of the trees, however the pruning needs to be heavy (70% - 90% leaf area reduction) and generally it is only effective where the trees are at a further distance from the damage.

Unfortunately Beech trees are not tolerant of such pruning, and if carried out, it would have lead to its deterioration and eventual death.

Root barriers are sometimes recommended to mitigate root damage however they only provide a temporary solution and may be impractical as roots normally need to be severed well back from the barrier, and the barrier needs to be installed well below the root depth. It is common to find tree roots 1.5 - 2m below the foundations. As the tree was located in close proximity to the property, it was our view that the root loss would have compromised the tree's health.

I totally agree with [MOG] that residents should have been notified in advance of the works and will take this matter up with both Lewisham Homes and the Councils Tree Management Officers.

Generally the only time we would not give residents prior notification of tree works is if the works were being undertaken to make safe a dangerous situation.

I can only offer my sincere apologies to [MOG] as I fully appreciate how upsetting it must have been to come home and find the tree gone.

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Why did Sydenham-00468 have to die?