The target date for a decision on the planning application is 2 February 2010, thirteen weeks after it was registered. But it's only a target!
Should the Council's planning committee resolve to grant permission it will almost certainly be subject to a legal agreement between the Council and the applicant. Only when the legal agreement is signed is the 'decision notice' confirming the grant of permission formally issued. Lewisham will probably aim to have the agreement signed by the end of the thirteen week period.
In planning terms that would put the applicant well on the way, not least because this is a 'full' application, rather than an 'outline' application; the latter deals only with the principle of a proposed development. There will, however, be various conditions attached to the permission which will need to be 'discharged'. These will probably relate to, amongst other things, detailed design matters.
Aside from the planning process, there will probably be some more detailed design work to do, and then contractors to appoint. See http://www.architecture.com/Files/RIBAP ... vised).pdf for more on the stages in the design process.
All that can be done within a few months. But bear in mind the planning permission will be granted for three or five years, so the developer might choose to wait until the housing market improves before it starts on site. For the record, I have no idea what the developer's intentions are - it may well be that they want to get diggers on site as soon as possible.
The Greyhound, Cobbs Corner
Biscuitmans post seem to have deterred other contributions..zzzzzz
Just joking.
I went in and saw the revised model in Kirkdale books today and the developers seem to have addressed most of the big concerns. I would be happy for the proposal to go ahead, but each to their own.
Another consideration is that the Public House building may not survive for too much longer and if its condition deteriorates, the developer would have the opportunity of ammending their proposal with additional modern buildings.
Perhaps someone can post some photos of the revised model if they get the chance
Just joking.
I went in and saw the revised model in Kirkdale books today and the developers seem to have addressed most of the big concerns. I would be happy for the proposal to go ahead, but each to their own.
Another consideration is that the Public House building may not survive for too much longer and if its condition deteriorates, the developer would have the opportunity of ammending their proposal with additional modern buildings.
Perhaps someone can post some photos of the revised model if they get the chance
Looks like it'll be me then
These are photos of the model in Kirkdale Books
overview from above-front, railway to the far right.
View from the railway (down at bottom of picture)
From the rear, with Peak Hill to the right of the picture
Again from the front
And now for the artists impressions
From Sydenham Road, Greyhound on left of picture
Rear of development`(From Spring hill)
And finally from the roundabout
These are photos of the model in Kirkdale Books
overview from above-front, railway to the far right.
View from the railway (down at bottom of picture)
From the rear, with Peak Hill to the right of the picture
Again from the front
And now for the artists impressions
From Sydenham Road, Greyhound on left of picture
Rear of development`(From Spring hill)
And finally from the roundabout
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biscuitman1978
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Does anyone know the current position?
A report on the applications was due to be presented to Lewisham's Planning Committee A on 21 January 2010. You can view it at
www.lewisham.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/...The ... ry2010.PDF
It recommended approval of the applications, but it's not clear whether the committee actually considered the report and made a decision. Possibly not, as the applicant submitted further revisions (so that the scheme includes wheelchair units) in February. Or perhaps it did, and expressed concern about the absence of wheelchair units.
In any case, a Balfour Beatty storage container and toilet block have arrived on site. Looks like they're ready to start work pretty soon...
A report on the applications was due to be presented to Lewisham's Planning Committee A on 21 January 2010. You can view it at
www.lewisham.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/...The ... ry2010.PDF
It recommended approval of the applications, but it's not clear whether the committee actually considered the report and made a decision. Possibly not, as the applicant submitted further revisions (so that the scheme includes wheelchair units) in February. Or perhaps it did, and expressed concern about the absence of wheelchair units.
In any case, a Balfour Beatty storage container and toilet block have arrived on site. Looks like they're ready to start work pretty soon...
From the Spring Sydenham Society (print) newsletter
It's not yet up here http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/CouncilAndDe ... lMeetings/, but I would hope not too long ...It is anticipated that the Greyhound planning application will at long last get before a planning committee at the Town hall on Thursday March 18 with a recommendation to approve.
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the greyhound cobbs corner
That is brilliant news !
At last. To keep STFers informed, I am happy to add the following detail:
After a considerable discussion, the planning committee voted unanimously to grant planning permission for the scheme submitted by Wealdfrost Ltd for the refurbishment (and partial demolition to the rear) of the Greyhound public house, the construction of two apartment blocks containing 40 residential units with commercial units on the ground floor, and the restoration of the Spring Hill building (including removal of the existing pitched roof and the addition of a second storey). In total the amount of commercial floorspace is 943sq m, of which the pub comprises 286sq m. The former drinking corridor (which some residents may remember) is one of the elements of the pub scheduled for demolition but the tiles have been stored and will be reinstated in the refurbished pub; in addition, there will be new stone greyhounds on plinths to replace those which disappeared some years ago, together with the construction of a new public space adjacent to the pub which will include hard and soft landscaping.
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Just to say that the full planning report is on Lewisham's web site http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres ... ch2010.PDF.
The number of residential units is 40 – of these, 26 will be private and 14 will be provided as affordable housing. The mix is to provide 12 one-bedroom, 11 two-bedroom and 17 three bedroom units. The ground floor will have three units and meet SEHLP standards for adaption to accommodate wheelchair occupiers, being 1 one-bedroom flat and 2 two-bedroom flats.
Eleven car parking spaces will be provided; four for residents, two commercial parking spaces, one disabled parking space and four parking spaces for car club use. There will be provision of a motorcycle parking area and cycle parking facilities for a minimum of 56 bicycles.
The number of residential units is 40 – of these, 26 will be private and 14 will be provided as affordable housing. The mix is to provide 12 one-bedroom, 11 two-bedroom and 17 three bedroom units. The ground floor will have three units and meet SEHLP standards for adaption to accommodate wheelchair occupiers, being 1 one-bedroom flat and 2 two-bedroom flats.
Eleven car parking spaces will be provided; four for residents, two commercial parking spaces, one disabled parking space and four parking spaces for car club use. There will be provision of a motorcycle parking area and cycle parking facilities for a minimum of 56 bicycles.